From: Leon Brocard Date: 14:21 on 19 Jan 2004 Subject: VNC VNC is a wonderful idea. Make anything a remote desktop. Anything can be a client. As always, it falls down in implementation. Software! OK, so I'm mostly talking about Mac OS X VNC clients and servers here. But wait, isn't this supposed to be a simple open protocol that anyone can implement? So why is it dog slow and why do I keep on finding VNC clients and servers that don't interoperate? It's just silly. But not as silly as the name "Chicken of the VNC" that is a popular OS X VNC client. Or it would be, I presume, if I could get it to talk to anything. Thus I blame everyone. It shouldn't be hard to write a client. Writing a server could be a little tricker, granted, but a client for a well-documented not-really-new-is-it protocol? Hey, maybe I'll do it myself 'cos everyone else appears to be failing completely. I hear rdesktop is better. But can it really be? I mean, it's software... Bah, Leon
From: David Cantrell Date: 14:52 on 19 Jan 2004 Subject: Re: VNC On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:21:02PM +0000, Leon Brocard wrote: > I hear rdesktop is better. But can it really be? I mean, it's > software... Apple's remote desktop begins to suck even before you order it. They won't sell you less than ten licences.
From: Thomas R. Sibley Date: 15:21 on 19 Jan 2004 Subject: Re: VNC Leon Brocard wrote on 01/19/04 09:21: > OK, so I'm mostly talking about Mac OS X VNC clients and servers > here. But wait, isn't this supposed to be a simple open protocol that > anyone can implement? So why is it dog slow and why do I keep on > finding VNC clients and servers that don't interoperate? The TightVNC implementation works well for me most of the time. But to continue the suckiness, VNC isn't secure at all. Nada. Zilch. I don't want to have to setup SSH tunnels just to get a secure VNC connection.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 16:31 on 19 Jan 2004 Subject: Re: VNC I have conflicting emotions about that. I don't mind setting up SSH in this kind of case, but there's so much to hate in the SSH protocol.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 16:25 on 19 Jan 2004 Subject: Re: VNC > It's just silly. But not as silly as the name "Chicken of the VNC" > that is a popular OS X VNC client. Or it would be, I presume, if I > could get it to talk to anything. I know, lousy name, but it's the best VNC client I've ever used. I don't know what magic they're using, but it's way faster than anything else I've tried, even over ISDN or an SSH tunnel. It's fast enough that I can't believe it's VNC... I get better performance from home using CotVNC over the ISDN than I do using the same bloke's client and server from work... and that's over a 100bT link... going through the *same* proxy firewall. What are you trying to connect to? I use TightVNC on Windows at the other end and it's fine.
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